Comments on: Something from nothing? http://www.michaelduchemin.com/2008/10/14/something-from-nothing/ The Weblog of Mike Duchemin Thu, 15 Jul 2010 03:15:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Michael Duchemin http://www.michaelduchemin.com/2008/10/14/something-from-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-84 Michael Duchemin Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:00:56 +0000 http://www.michaelduchemin.com/?p=44#comment-84 I have responded <a href = "http://michaelduchemin.com/2009/02/16/no-leg-to-stand-on" rel="nofollow">here</a> to your previous comment. I have responded here to your previous comment.

]]> By: Michael Duchemin http://www.michaelduchemin.com/2008/10/14/something-from-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-82 Michael Duchemin Sat, 14 Feb 2009 01:38:02 +0000 http://www.michaelduchemin.com/?p=44#comment-82 I'll respond on a new post. I’ll respond on a new post.

]]> By: pcamper http://www.michaelduchemin.com/2008/10/14/something-from-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-81 pcamper Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:49:12 +0000 http://www.michaelduchemin.com/?p=44#comment-81 Thank you for your response. What I actually have a problem with is belief in the supernatural. I do not live by faith now, but by reason and hope. The main reason I do not believe any more is the atrocities attributed to your "god" in the bible against innocent babies and children. He actually murdered babies (See 2nd Samuel, the baby of David and Bathsheba) as well as the firstborn males and the flood (if it happened) must have caused many babies and children to perish. My question to you then is: Do you ENJOY believing and praising a being who did these things to babies and children and who would send someone to be tortured just because they exercise their right to think for themselves? Also, I have a problem wth the concept of "hell". There are christians who believe that even good people will be tortured if they do not believe. This is riduculous. Why would anyone deserve that kind of punishment? This is a being worse than Hitler. However, there are christians who do not believe in hell. So, my question to them is: If you do not believe that part of the bible is true regarding hell, then isn't it just common sense that the rest of the bible is not true either. As far as evolution, it makes more sense than some invisible being in the sky judging us. I don't believe in sin anymore, I believe in right and wrong and always striving to do what is right. I also believe in evidence. If you are an intelligent person, I cannot believe you think the earth is only 6000 years old. To me, science equals evidence without certainty and religion equals certainty without evidence. I will stick with the evidence without certainty. As far as faith, I believe that blind faith equals blind obedience. As far as the trinity, no one can explain that. It was decided upon at the council of nicea. On the bible: I will quote Mark Twain who said that "most people are bothered by passages of scripture that do not understand, but I am bothered by the passages of scripture that I do understand. Yes, it takes an incredible amount of faith to believe superstitious things, so I will stick with reason and hope instead of christianity. Thank you for your response. What I actually have a problem with is belief in the supernatural. I do not live by faith now, but by reason and hope. The main reason I do not believe any more is the atrocities attributed to your “god” in the bible against innocent babies and children. He actually murdered babies (See 2nd Samuel, the baby of David and Bathsheba) as well as the firstborn males and the flood (if it happened) must have caused many babies and children to perish. My question to you then is: Do you ENJOY believing and praising a being who did these things to babies and children and who would send someone to be tortured just because they exercise their right to think for themselves? Also, I have a problem wth the concept of “hell”. There are christians who believe that even good people will be tortured if they do not believe. This is riduculous. Why would anyone deserve that kind of punishment? This is a being worse than Hitler. However, there are christians who do not believe in hell. So, my question to them is: If you do not believe that part of the bible is true regarding hell, then isn’t it just common sense that the rest of the bible is not true either.

As far as evolution, it makes more sense than some invisible being in the sky judging us. I don’t believe in sin anymore, I believe in right and wrong and always striving to do what is right.

I also believe in evidence. If you are an intelligent person, I cannot believe you think the earth is only 6000 years old. To me, science equals evidence without certainty and religion equals certainty without evidence. I will stick with the evidence without certainty.

As far as faith, I believe that blind faith equals blind obedience.

As far as the trinity, no one can explain that. It was decided upon at the council of nicea.

On the bible: I will quote Mark Twain who said that “most people are bothered by passages of scripture that do not understand, but I am bothered by the passages of scripture that I do understand.

Yes, it takes an incredible amount of faith to believe superstitious things, so I will stick with reason and hope instead of christianity.

]]> By: Michael Duchemin http://www.michaelduchemin.com/2008/10/14/something-from-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-80 Michael Duchemin Thu, 12 Feb 2009 04:54:34 +0000 http://www.michaelduchemin.com/?p=44#comment-80 Allow me to clarify. This is a problem for the materialist, but not for the Christian. The materialist needs to simultaneously believe that something came from nothing without it being created by God and that something can't come from nothing. As a trinitarian Christian, I have no problem with the earth being created ex nihilo over the period of 6 days about 6,000 years ago. My God is eternal and uncreated. He is <i>super</i>natural (above nature, having created it and all). Do you believe in spontaneous generation, pcamper? Is that the best you can do to defend evolution when every scientific observation you've ever made disproves spontaneous generation? We both live by faith, but if you believe in evolution, your faith is so irrational that it would undermine the possibility of any knowledge if it were true. Allow me to clarify. This is a problem for the materialist, but not for the Christian. The materialist needs to simultaneously believe that something came from nothing without it being created by God and that something can’t come from nothing.

As a trinitarian Christian, I have no problem with the earth being created ex nihilo over the period of 6 days about 6,000 years ago. My God is eternal and uncreated. He is supernatural (above nature, having created it and all).

Do you believe in spontaneous generation, pcamper? Is that the best you can do to defend evolution when every scientific observation you’ve ever made disproves spontaneous generation? We both live by faith, but if you believe in evolution, your faith is so irrational that it would undermine the possibility of any knowledge if it were true.

]]> By: pcamper http://www.michaelduchemin.com/2008/10/14/something-from-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-79 pcamper Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:25:18 +0000 http://www.michaelduchemin.com/?p=44#comment-79 If you believe something cannot come from nothing, then how did your god get here? The same principle can be used there as well. If you believe god is something, then how did he come from nothing? If you believe something cannot come from nothing, then how did your god get here? The same principle can be used there as well. If you believe god is something, then how did he come from nothing?

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